{"id":58287,"date":"2019-06-04T19:50:01","date_gmt":"2019-06-04T19:50:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mixedracestudies.org\/?p=58287"},"modified":"2019-06-06T15:13:47","modified_gmt":"2019-06-06T15:13:47","slug":"the-singular-power-of-writing-a-conversation-with-thomas-chatterton-williams","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/?p=58287","title":{"rendered":"The Singular Power of Writing: A Conversation with Thomas Chatterton Williams"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/article\/the-singular-power-of-writing-a-conversation-with-thomas-chatterton-williams\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em><strong>The Singular Power of Writing: A Conversation with Thomas Chatterton Williams<\/strong><\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Los Angeles Review of Books<\/a><br \/>\n2019-04-12<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/contributor\/otis-houston\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Otis Houston<\/strong><\/a><br \/>\n<em>Portland, Oregon<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/article\/the-singular-power-of-writing-a-conversation-with-thomas-chatterton-williams\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks-org-cgwbfgl6lklqqj3f4t3.netdna-ssl.com\/media\/image.php?w=640&amp;h=640&amp;zc=1&amp;q=80&amp;src=%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F04%2FThomas-Chatteron-Williams.jpg&amp;hash=70b0747d7d879cac935f1aa98e9f06a9\" width=\"450\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/contributor\/otis-houston\/\">Otis Houston<\/a> interviews <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thomaschattwill\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Thomas Chatterton Williams<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thomaschattwill\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">THOMAS CHATTERTON WILLIAMS<\/a> is the author of <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mixedracestudies.org\/?p=39188\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Losing My Cool<\/a><em>, a memoir chronicling his experiences growing up in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/New_Jersey\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">New Jersey<\/a> as the son of a black father and a white mother and constructing an identity in the space between his love for <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Hip_hop\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">hip-hop<\/a> and for literature. His new book, <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mixedracestudies.org\/?p=58090\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race<\/a><em>, forthcoming from Norton in October, explores a further complication in the author\u2019s already fraught self-conception, and the often-contradictory ways in which society views and reifies racial categorization.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>The author spoke to me by <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Skype\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Skype<\/a> from his home in <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Paris\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Paris, France<\/a>, where he lives with his wife and two children.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/contributor\/otis-houston\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">OTIS HOUSTON<\/a>: You\u2019ve been critical of the ways in which writers conceptualize their identity on the page, and about different ways of thinking about identity in relation to society. I thought we could start by talking about some of these themes in your upcoming book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mixedracestudies.org\/?p=58090\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Self-Portrait in Black and White: Unlearning Race<\/em><\/a>, which questions some of the metrics by which we understand race in the 21st century.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/thomaschattwill\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">THOMAS CHATTERTON WILLIAMS<\/a>: The book started for me in 2013 when my daughter, Marlow, was born. Prior to that, in 2012, I had written an op-ed in <em>The New York Times<\/em> kind of glibly and really confidently <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mixedracestudies.org\/?p=21529\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">making the case that my kids would be black no matter what they looked like<\/a> because it\u2019s a kind of political stance more than a genetic identity.<\/p>\n<p>My wife is French and she\u2019s white, and it occurred to me that perhaps our kids would be kind of white-looking. But the reality of our daughter\u2019s birth really struck me, and I realized that I couldn\u2019t just send her out into the world with this antiquated logic of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mixedracestudies.org\/?p=86\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">hypo-descent<\/a>, which is really the slave master\u2019s logic and reinforces some really bad stuff if you think about it for a minute, even though it has allowed the black community to have a lot of solidarity when they needed it.<\/p>\n<p>We had this very Scandinavian-looking child, and for the first time in my life what I now call the fiction of race was thrust into my consciousness. It\u2019s an experience that most people, black or white, don\u2019t have to have because most people don\u2019t live on the racial margins and don\u2019t see how ridiculous it is to say something like, \u201cMy father is black, and my daughter is white, but they have the same smile.\u201d And my daughter is blond-haired and has blue eyes and white skin, but she\u2019s of 20 percent West African descent. Most people don\u2019t actually have these kinds of contradictions. So, her birth really set me down this path. I wrote an essay about it for the <em>Virginia Quarterly Review<\/em> called \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mixedracestudies.org\/?p=39271\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Black and Blue and Blond<\/a>\u201d about questioning and reassessing things I\u2019d taken for granted, and <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Jonathan_Franzen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Jonathan Franzen<\/a> was kind enough to include it in the <em>Best American Essays<\/em>, which he edited in 2016&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Read the entire interview <a href=\"https:\/\/lareviewofbooks.org\/article\/the-singular-power-of-writing-a-conversation-with-thomas-chatterton-williams\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Otis Houston interviews Thomas Chatterton Williams<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,13743,8],"tags":[14582,29904,4725],"class_list":["post-58287","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-articles","category-interviews","category-media-archive","tag-los-angeles-review-of-books","tag-otis-houston","tag-thomas-chatterton-williams"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58287","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=58287"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58287\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":58302,"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/58287\/revisions\/58302"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=58287"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=58287"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mixedracestudies.org\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=58287"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}